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PostPosted: November 17, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: The Dark Mark Reply with quote

Okay, in GOF p. 709 (and three words of p. 710), US paper back edition, at the very bottom of the page where Snape is talking, it says:

Snape wrote:
"There," said Snape harshly. "There. The Dark Mark. It is not as clear as it was an hour or so ago, when it burned black, but you can still see it."

Then later on p. 710, still in that paragraph, half way down, it says:

Snape wrote:
"This Mark has been growing clearer all year. Karkoroff's too."


Now this gives the impression that the Mark is transparent untill Voldemort touches a Death Eater's Mark. If this is true, the why was Draco worried about Madam Malikin (or what ever her name is. The lady from the robe shop where Draco sees the trio) seeing his Mark, if there was no Mark to be seen? Was it because he was affraid she would touch it and call Voldemort? Or is the Mark is only faded so that you would have to look really closely to see it? Could it possibly be that the only reason that the Mark started showing up in Goblet of Fire was because Voldemort was getting stronger so the Mark got darker? So would that mean that when Draco was in the robe shop, the Mark was black, so that's why he wouldn't let her see his left arm? But then Snape said, to Fudge in GOF, that it was fadding again after Voldemort had risen. Does that mean that it only shows up when Voldemort is mad, or happy, like Harry's scar? That's all I got. Tell me what you think Smile
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PostPosted: November 17, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could it possibly be that the only reason that the Mark started showing up in Goblet of Fire was because Voldemort was getting stronger so the Mark got darker?


that's what I always assumed. but interesting point about how he said it was fading. but perhaps voldemort made it fade since at that point he was in hiding, in HBP everyone knew he was back anyway, so he didn't bother worrying about people noticing dark marks. and if there happened to be a DE who needed to keep it hidden, sucks to be him he better not mess up.
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PostPosted: November 17, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I see what you're saying, and that makes sense.
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PostPosted: November 17, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the mark is faded, yet visible, most of the time, and becomes solid black when Voldemort rings. Or something like that.
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PostPosted: November 18, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mark is always there... just faint.
It never says that the mark isn't there at all... so I don't know why anyone would assume that the mark ever disappears all together.
When Voldemort touches someone's mark to summon the DE's, it "burns black." Otherwise, it's not burning black... but it's still there.

Draco had the dark mark on him... the two quotes you gave us were from GoF.... Draco had the mark in HBP, two years later.
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PostPosted: November 18, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that these were from GOF, but they were the phrases that stuck out to me explaining about the Mark... And I was just brainstorming what could explain the Mark, not saying that that's what happens. If you feel like this should be in the GOF section, feel free to move it. Or I could get some quotes from HBP if you like.
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PostPosted: November 18, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pottergirl66 wrote:
I know that these were from GOF, but they were the phrases that stuck out to me explaining about the Mark... And I was just brainstorming what could explain the Mark, not saying that that's what happens. If you feel like this should be in the GOF section, feel free to move it. Or I could get some quotes from HBP if you like.


This can stay where it is, since you are asking about Draco's Dark Mark in HBP.
That's not what I meant by GoF, anyway, hun... I just meant that one isn't connected with the other... meaning all Snape said was that it's been "burning black." not that it has appeared or anything like that. Quite the contrary. He says, it has been "growing clearer." For something to be growing clearer, it had to have already been there.
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PostPosted: December 7, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting... idk....
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